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From Teacher to Study Abroad Director + International Ed in the Time of Trump

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I’m so excited to bring you today’s episode with Angela Perryman, Director of Study Abroad at the University of Kansas. As many of you know, I’m a huge Kansas Jayhawks Men’s Basketball fan so getting to talk to Angela about two of my favorite topics: KU basketball AND study abroad...I’m done. Life goals unlocked.

Before we get into today’s interview, I just want to say thank you to everyone for all your support last week during the open enrollment for the Global Pro Institute. We have such an amazing group of new people from a broad range of backgrounds  - to recent college grads, returned Peace Corps volunteers, a few PhDs, and some career changers - getting started this week. Our first group coaching call is tonight, but the conversation inside our private community has already been incredibly engaging and thoughtful.

If you missed the enrollment or you missed my workshop on how to land your dream job in international education, don’t worry. I’ll be opening up the doors again soon and be making the workshop available on Inside Study Abroad.com as well. Watch your inbox for that. You can join the email list here. 

As I mentioned, Angela Perryman is director of study abroad at the University of Kansas. Before returning to KU as Director, Angela worked for several years as a senior administrator in the study abroad office of Colorado State University where she oversaw study abroad curriculum integration initiatives.

In this interview, I talk to Angela about how she successfully transition from an elementary and secondary school teacher to a university administrator, how she and her team at KU market study abroad to a campus community that is committed to an on-campus experience (i.e. KU Men’s Basketball), the impact of DACA changes on international programs and the broader campus community, how anyone can get a “yes” to an internship opportunity at a university office like hers, and what Angela has been doing to continually up-level her career in international ed.

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE

  • What sparked Angela’s interest in study abroad administration
  • How to transition from teaching elementary and secondary schools to a career in study abroad in higher education
  • How to remain relatable to students with such a different study abroad experience
  • The value of working at large public research universities
  • How to advise students when competing with a deep sports culture at a university
  • Why Angela believes in transferrable skills - and which ones to focus on
  • Advise on how to get involved in a study abroad office as a student - and after graduation
  • How to get to a “yes” for an internship with a study abroad office
  • Study Abroad and the impact of new DACA guidelines on participation
  • How Angela continued to uplevel her career from coordinator to director
  • What she’s still working on growing and learning in her own career
  • Working with star athletes in study abroad and academic environments

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THIS EPISODE IS PROUDLY SPONSORED BY ACADEMIC STUDIES ABROAD

Since 1999 ASA has been running summer, semester, J-term, academic year, and faculty-led programs in Europe and Latin America, with a unique focus on small groups. Lee Frankel, Founder and Director of ASA, told me, “When we started in 1999 I said that if we ever didn’t know the names of all our students we had grown too big”...and 19 years later he’s proud to say that they still know every one of their students’ names...and their unique challenges, interests, and driving motivation to study abroad.

Which is what makes ASA so special and stand out in a sea of huge study abroad companies.  Want to learn more and help your students become a part of this tight-knit community? Go to www.academicstudies.com or call 888-845-4ASA to learn more about their study abroad programs in Europe and Latin America. And be sure to tell them that Inside Study Abroad sent ya!

ISAP #21 - Parenthood, Careerhood, and Balancing It All with Samantha Lacroix, EUSA Academic Internship Experts

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PreS: I'm hosting a workshop next Tuesday, January 30th at 2pm EST all about how to land your dream job in study abroad and international education. Click here to get registered! 


Hello everyone! Welcome back to the show! I’m coming to you from the beautiful city of Buenos Aires, Argentina. I’ve been here for about 3 weeks and absolutely loving this place. Eating way too many empanadas and trying to teach myself to like mate - which is like an intense herbal tea.

I’ve also tossed my vegetarianism out the window while I’m here to enjoy a little bife de chorizo. Yum!

And of course, tonight I’m headed to my first (and likely last) tango lesson. I’ll let you know how it goes.

 Brooke and her tango teacher, Javier, in Buenos Aires, Argentina (January 2018)

Brooke and her tango teacher, Javier, in Buenos Aires, Argentina (January 2018)

 

Before we jump into today’s interview, I want to let you know that next Tuesday, January 30th, I’m hosting a free training “How to Land Your Dream Job in Study Abroad and International Education.” As always, it’s going to be packed with actionable strategies that you can use right away to make a difference in your job search and career. Go to insidestudyabroad.com/training to register...and of course, if you pre-register you’ll get access to a limited time replay.

Next week I’m also opening the doors to the final live cohort of the Global Pro Institute. After winter 2018 cohort, the program will become evergreen which means it will be available all year round and anyone can sign up any time you want.

Okay...on to today’s interview:

I’m bringing you an interview with Samantha Lacroix, director of university relations at EUSA - Academic Internship Experts. She also happens to be a former colleague of mine at EUSA AND a very dear friend.

We did this recording a few months ago right before she gave birth to her daughter. In this conversation we dive into getting jobs that you don’t feel qualified for, landing jobs without a master’s degree, balancing career and parenthood, helping students leverage study abroad for their career, and finally getting a master’s degree that works for your career.

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 

  • How Samantha got the nickname Bazzer
  • How to land jobs outside of your wheelhouse and leverage them for the next step
  • How Samantha answered the question “why don’t you have a master’s degree?”
  • How she is balancing the roles of ambitious professionals and dedicated mother
  • Does international education celebrate and support parents?
  • Samantha’s advice on how to stay in engaged in the field even if you’re not traveling and presenting at conferences
  • What EUSA is doing with universities to uplevel career-readiness of their participants and alumni
  • Balancing parenthood, career, and getting a master’s degree

 

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TODAY'S SPONSOR

This episode is brought to you by The Study Abroad Journal -The practical field guide for savvy study abroad students. Here’s the deal: having an epic experience abroad isn’t something that automatically happens. Simply going abroad isn’t going to impress future internship supervisors, grad school committees, employers, or even your parents.

What matters most is what you DID and achieved during your time abroad and how you’re able to articulate the value to specific audiences when you return. That’s where the Study Abroad Journal comes in. This physical journal helps you identify your goals, outline an action plan to meet those goals, and figure out how to share the value of what you learned when it’s all over.

The Journal helps you go from meh to epic and give you real return on your investment. To learn more and get your hands on a copy head over to thestudyabroadjournal.com and use code INSIDESA at checkout to save 10%. (And of course, there are discounts for any office and providers that would like to buy in bulk for your students. Just reach out and we’ll get you started!).

ISAP #20 - Dr. Mary Dwyer's Journey From Medical School Faculty To Study Abroad CEO

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Today on the podcast, I’m sharing an interview with Dr. Mary Dwyer, CEO of IES Abroad, one of our field's leading education abroad program providers. I was fascinated by Mary's unlikely journey from medical school faculty to study abroad CEO (without ever having studied abroad herself). 

Mary and I talk about the challenges facing women in work today and the strategies organizations can implement to support more more women in work and in leadership roles. We also discuss the value of hard work, showing up, and taking charge of your career trajectory. 

WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE:

  • How Mary went from medical school faculty to company CEO
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  • How Mary went from a life as a traditional faculty member in the academy to a CEO of one of the largest program providers in IE
  • Where she gained her initial international experience (hint: it wasn't through a traditional study abroad program)
  • The biggest challenges Mary faced when making the transition (and how her faculty colleagues reacted to the choice)
    • How Mary navigated the more “gentile” world of IE after a long career in the hyper-competitive, cut-throat environment of a Research I medical school
    • What Mary sees as the biggest challenges facing professional women in IE (and any industry) today
    • How IE organizations can support the growth of women in IE organizations
    • How the data sets gathered by IES each year can help professionals advocate for more resources in IE
    • The most important characteristic you need to be successful in your career
    • When talking about diversity in study abroad - where are all the men? And what IES is doing to support more men to study abroad

     

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    TODAY'S SPONSOR

    This episode is brought to you by The Study Abroad Journal -The practical field guide for savvy study abroad students. The Holidays are here my friends and if you have a person in your life who is getting ready to study abroad or go on a meaningful international experience, the best gift I can think of beside money, is a Study Abroad Journal. Seriously, guide books are available online. They already have an amazing camera in their smartphones. And luggage really isn’t a cool gift. But a Journal this is something that is highly relevant, unique, and is actually going to help them get amazing ROI from their experience.  The journal helps students identify their goals, outline an action plan to meet those goals, and figure out how to share the value of what they’ve learned when it’s all over. To learn more and get your hands on a copy head over to thestudyabroadjournal.com and use code INSIDESA at checkout to save 10%. (And of course, there are discounts for any office and providers that would like to buy in bulk for your students. Just reach out and we’ll get you started!).